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The Go-Ban as Game System
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A game system is a set of game components which can be used to play a number of games. The most familiar example is a standard deck of (French) playing cards, for which hundreds, if not thousands, of games have been designed. Examples which might make the meaning clearer are the modern PiecePack and Icehouse game systems, which were explicitly created as such.

If you would like to learn more about the idea of game systems, Ron Hale-Evans has written a very interesting series of articles for The Games Journal. The first of these articles can be found at:

http://www.thegamesjournal.com/articles/GameSystem...s1.shtm...

However, this GeekList is specifically about using the go-ban, that is, a standard Go set, as a game system. I have listed several games which can be played with a go-ban without additional components. If you know of others, please feel free to add them.

For the sake of simplicity and clarity, please do not add games that can be played with an 8x8 (chess/checkers) board and checkers. Any such game can be played on a go-ban, theoretically, but checkers sets are so common as to render the use of a go-ban unnecessary. Other games which use a board that is larger than 8x8, but still fit on the 19x19 board of a standard go-ban are fine.
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1. Board Game: Go [Average Rating:7.78 Overall Rank:43]
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Of course.

I've barely dipped my toe into the ocean of Go, but I love it so far. The only problem is that, as a rank beginner, it really makes my brain hurt after a while. :o

Well, that plus the fact that I suck.
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Yep. Go is the BEST board game ever. Period. But I suck at it too, and it makes my brain pop fuses. I love the pieces, the simplicity, and the absolute watery DEPTH to this game. I have spent many happy hours playing through old master games. Not that I really understand them of course.???
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2. Board Game: Slither [Average Rating:7.79 Unranked]
 
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One of my goals with Slither was to allow it to be played with a Go-Ban. the 19x19 game would take a while so I recommend playing on some predefined area of the board. 10x10 is a good size to get started.
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3. Board Game: Alea evangelii [Average Rating:7.50 Unranked]
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A hnefatafl-type game played on the intersections of a 19x19 grid!
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4. Board Game: Gonnect [Average Rating:7.28 Unranked]
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A modern (2000) design which is (to oversimplify) a cross between Go and Hex.

I haven't looked too closely at Gonnect yet (which is rather shameful, since I added it to the database a few weeks ago), but from what I have seen, it may be quite an interesting game.
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An interesting idea indeed cool
 
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5. Board Game: Epaminondas [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:2541]
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A development and expansion of the 8x8 game Crossings. The standard version is played on a 12x14 board (an on the squares, not the intersections), but there aren't too many boards of that size floating around, even in the collections of dedicated 'Geeks, so a go-ban might be the best option. Also, 12x14 is just the standard size. There is no real reason that I know of that this couldn't be played on the full go-ban.

Epiminondas was most famously presented in Sid Sackson's A Gamut of Games, but it was designed by Robert Abbott, who, IMHO, stands in no game designer's shadow.
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I believe many BGG users must be already equipped with whatever material that can be used to play this game. Play it! This is a great game. Although it's purely abstract, it somehow feels like you're making the flanking manuevers in the battlefield.
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  • Posted Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:28 am
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but there aren't too many boards of that size floating around


Not any more:





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  • Posted Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:27 pm
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There is no real reason that I know of that this couldn't be played on the full go-ban.

Anyone have experience/suggestions wrt this?
 
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6. Board Game: Connect6 [Average Rating:7.01 Overall Rank:3868]
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This'll do the trick too. Not a bad looking *-in-a-row game.
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7. Board Game: Hex [Average Rating:6.76 Overall Rank:1512]
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You can play hex by allowing NE/SW diagonals while forbidding NW/SE diagonals. Completely isomorphic to 19×19 hex if I understand correctly.
Before you start playing take a look on how the miai bridges work — knights jumps in the allowed diagonal, diagonals in the forbidden diagonal.

You might want to sit at opposing corners? But I think this works fine.
 
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8. Board Game: Pente [Average Rating:6.63 Overall Rank:816]
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Pente is a slightly dumbed down version of the traditional game Ninuki-renju.

How many people do you think own a Pente set without realizing that they can play Go on it?

How many people do you think own a Pente set, realize that they can play Go on it, but don't because it's too hard for them to understand?

How many BGGers own a go-ban and wonder "Why in the world would I ever want to play Pente on it?"

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Go & Pente boards are the same size: 19x19. And yes, you do need extra markers--enough to cover all the points but one--180 of each color for 360 total. Or about 300 more than come with the common Pente set.

I personally like to play Pente on a Pente set and Go on the Go set. I find that playing Pente on the Go set screws my next Go game...
 
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  • Posted Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:13 pm
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dan,

Newbie Go players first start out playing the game on a 9x9 and then a 13x13 board before advancing to the ultimate 19x19 board. Your Pente board and limited stones should suit you well for now.
 
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9. Board Game: TWRS [Average Rating:6.59 Unranked]
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Eventhough this game is a bit different, I thought it was worth mentioning: each player has 3 towers (pawns). 40 playing pieces (Go stones) can be used as markerstones (all the same colour).

The game plays on an 11x11 grid. Play is done on the intersections, just like in Go. Rules can be found here.

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10. Board Game: Redstone [Average Rating:6.50 Unranked]
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a new offering . You need some additional red stones.
 
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11. Board Game: Thud [Average Rating:6.24 Overall Rank:2716]
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Thud can be played quite conveniently on a Goban if you use a third type of stone to note the edge of the board.

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12. Board Game: Othello [Average Rating:6.06 Overall Rank:1730]
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While othello can be played on a checkers board, it would take three or more sets to have enough "men" to play. Thus I invoke the go-ban.
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Actually 6 sets of Othello pieces--there are 361 points on a Go Board.
 
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  • Posted Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:11 pm
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He means checker sets to play Othello, not Othello sets to play Go.
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  • Posted Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:30 pm
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13. Board Game: Go Mofasta [Average Rating:6.04 Unranked]
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This adds an element of chance and hidden information, making it a lighter game than brain-burning Go.
 
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14. Board Game: Go-Moku [Average Rating:5.99 Overall Rank:3324]
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Go-Moku is a simplified, children's version of Nenuki-renju, although the family tree actually runs the other way.
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15. Board Game: Ki [Average Rating:5.80 Unranked]
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Ki is definitely playable on a Go-ban and shares a lot in common with Go. While Ki has more elegant rules than Go it is not quite as fast paced and (probably) not as deep as Go.
 
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16. Board Game: Renju [Average Rating:5.88 Overall Rank:5343]
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You mention it under Go-Moku - may as well give it a spot.
 
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17. Board Game: Crossway [Average Rating:5.36 Unranked]
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A connection game with an interesting rule to prevent draws. Very few have played it.
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Crossway bears a strong similarity to Twixt.
 
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  • Posted Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:12 pm
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18. Board Game: Gess [Average Rating:5.80 Unranked]
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This game was mentioned in the list comments soon after I first created this. I figured I'd leave it for someone who needed the GeekGold for an avatar to add it to the database.

Flash forward to a couple of weeks ago, and I discover that it still isn't in the database, so I added it myself, mostly so I could put it in this list.

This is a vaguely chess-like game in which the 'pieces' are configurations of stones, with each configuration being able to move in a different (but easy to remember) way. You can move any configuration on the board that you own that forms a legal 'piece'.

Both players have to maintain a 'ring' piece, and the first player who is unable to do so for any reason loses.
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Gess belongs on a virtual Go-ban. Has it ever been played with a physical set? Moving and capturing would be incredibly tedious and prone to error, or so it would seem to me.
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19. Board Game: Orbit [Average Rating:5.00 Unranked]
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An odd Go-like game in which captured stones do not score (only territory does).

Not as elegant as Go IMHO, but, I suspect from looking at the rules, a worthy variant for those so inclined, and there are several variants for Orbit itself.

Note that, by the standard rules, Orbit is played on a 16x16 grid rather than the full 19x19, but that still qualifies.
 
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20. Board Game: Tanbo [Average Rating:4.71 Unranked]
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A somewhat go-like game that uses the concept of liberties as the driving mechanic, rather than control of territory.

I had heard of this game before putting together this list, but knew nothing about the rules until I researched this comment. In fact this comment is about all that I know about the game
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Tanbo is an interesting game. You can play it online with it's designer(and other people) at http://www.superdupergames.org Takes a long time as play by web though as there are a lot of moves involved!
 
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21. Board Game: Ren [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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definitely fits the list, there's group-scoring, single-stone capturing and a mechanic to remove adjacent stones to the scoring stone. free to download, looking for comments... ;-)
 
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22. Board Game: Loose [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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A simple-looking, tile-flipping territory game in which groups are captured when they run out of "true" liberties.

Ideally, Reversi stones should be used to make flips easier.
 
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23. Board Game: Shifty [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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Shifty is a square board connection game, where the goal is to create a chain of orthogonally and/or diagonally connected stones between two opposite edges of the board.

The unique feature of Shifty is that on your turn you must either place a stone orthogonally adjacent to at least one friendly stone or you must move any friendly stone, by a chess queen's move, to any empty intersection orthogonally adjacent to fewer friendly stones than the intersection it started on.

As a result you must often forego adding a stone to the board, and instead "shoot" a stone already on the board to a strategically key spot. This sharpshooting dynamic is the source of the game's strategic interest.
 
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24. Board Game: Quentin [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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Drawless square board connection game where players claim territories with a majority of friendly stones surrounding them. This simple mechanism makes deadlocks impossible.

Fun, innovative and deep.
 
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25. Board Game: Konobi [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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An unusual square board connection game with a touch of coldness.
 
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It's not in the database, but there's a sort of Go/Chess hybrid called "Gess" that belongs on this list.
 
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Here is a site with tons of games that can be played on a goban/checkers board (some of them require stacking checkers, some require a larger goban, some could be played on either):
http://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~jpn/gv/index.htm
 
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Thanks for this great list. I'm always looking for new ways to put my nice board to use...
 
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I like to notice that this list has currently collected 19 thumbs up.

 
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Out of these I think go-moku, connect-6 and go are the ones I most want to play. Maybe gess would turn out to be fun if I gave it a shot…
Specifically, I’m not that awed by renju, neither the capturing nor the “black may not play certain positions but white may”.

I want to play outside in the summer time!
 
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