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Currently 3.99 at Amazon.

I've previously purchased both Book 01: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain and Book 02: The Citadel of Chaos and I can tell you these books are fantastic on the Kindle, which handles all the die rolls and record keeping -- even maps. Original illustrations are there and have never looked better. Highly recommended!

EDIT:

There is more info at the publisher's website:

http://www.fightingfantasygamebooks.com/

And here:

http://www.worldweaver.com/content.php?29-Fighting-Fantasy-G...

Apparently, they plan to release one Kindle adaptation per month.
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They used to be non-purchasable outside of US (or at least from where I live), but now I see that they don't even come out when you (I, actually) search for them on Amazon.

Still puzzled by this. I regularly buy books for my Kindle from Amazon US, can't see why I cannot buy Fighting Fantasy gamebooks.
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Just for clarity, how should these products be entered into the system? As RPG item versions or as video game releases, on the VGG side? I see that an iPad/iPhone version of Book 01: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain is listed there, and was wondering how to deal with the Kindle editions. Is there a policy already?

Thanks!
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Therapnes wrote:
Just for clarity, how should these products be entered into the system? As RPG item versions or as video game releases, on the VGG side? I see that an iPad/iPhone version of Book 01: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain is listed there, and was wondering how to deal with the Kindle editions. Is there a policy already?

Thanks!


Surely they don't need separate entries.



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Therapnes wrote:
Just for clarity, how should these products be entered into the system? As RPG item versions or as video game releases, on the VGG side? I see that an iPad/iPhone version of Book 01: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain is listed there, and was wondering how to deal with the Kindle editions. Is there a policy already?

I was about to answer that you could enter them as versions, listing "Kindle Version" as nickname and "Electronic" as format, but then I found this on the Guide to Data Entry:

The Guide to Data Entry wrote:
Electronic and Computer Role-Playing Games

Any electronic version of RPG material published is fine for inclusion. This must either be new RPG material or a direct port of existing RPG material and distributed legally. This includes legal PDFs, web published entries, iPhone Apps which provide RPG material, etc. If the electronic version attempts to turn the RPG material into a playable game of any kind, we would consider it a video game and should be listed on Video Game Geek instead and not on RPG Geek. So, for example, if a "Lone-Wolf" style adventure was published online in PDF, HTML or DOC format (among others), we would consider it fair game to be listed here at the RPG Geek. However, if this were simply a playable form of a Choose Your Own Adventure game we would consider it a video game and should not be included.

And now I'm not so sure. And I can't even say if the Kindle version is a playable version or not, dammit!
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Thanks for finding the reference, Paolo! I should have just looked a little harder...

After thinking a bit more about it, I believe the Kindle version of WoFM belongs to VGG. I own it - I bought in the US - and in my opinion it falls squarely in the definition of "playable." The content may be the same as the book, but it is not a text that you can peruse at your will, for example to check the result of two different choices. The program directs the experience. It generates the initial scores for you, shows you only the section that matters at that moment, and makes the die rolls for you.

This seems different from, say, a rulebook or supplement for an RPG published as an e-book (of which there are quite a few available in the Kindle store). I couldn't find examples of products in Kindle format on either site, hence my doubt.
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Therapnes wrote:
Thanks for finding the reference, Paolo! I should have just looked a little harder...

After thinking a bit more about it, I believe the Kindle version of WoFM belongs to VGG. I own it - I bought in the US - and in my opinion it falls squarely in the definition of "playable." The content may be the same as the book, but it is not a text that you can peruse at your will, for example to check the result of two different choices. The program directs the experience. It generates the initial scores for you, shows you only the section that matters at that moment, and makes the die rolls for you.

This seems different from, say, a rulebook or supplement for an RPG published as an e-book (of which there are quite a few available in the Kindle store). I couldn't find examples of products in Kindle format on either site, hence my doubt.

For a definitive answer, maybe we could ask stargate – if he's not watching the thread already...
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Paolo Robino wrote:
They used to be non-purchasable outside of US (or at least from where I live), but now I see that they don't even come out when you (I, actually) search for them on Amazon.

Still puzzled by this. I regularly buy books for my Kindle from Amazon US, can't see why I cannot buy Fighting Fantasy gamebooks.


The reason that the Fighting Fantasy books can't be bought outside the US is because they're using Active Content. Unfortunately, Amazon hasn't yet made any Active Content available outside the US - which makes the UK fans of the FF books rather annoyed in particular.

I believe the Active Content is still in beta, which probably explains why they haven't rolled it out further yet.

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has all three gamebooks running on his Kindle here in NZ. I believe you have to change to a US address to order them, but they run fine here in NZ. I've played Warlock, and it does look very snazzy.
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Therapnes wrote:
After thinking a bit more about it, I believe the Kindle version of WoFM belongs to VGG. I own it - I bought in the US - and in my opinion it falls squarely in the definition of "playable." The content may be the same as the book, but it is not a text that you can peruse at your will, for example to check the result of two different choices. The program directs the experience. It generates the initial scores for you, shows you only the section that matters at that moment, and makes the die rolls for you.

This seems different from, say, a rulebook or supplement for an RPG published as an e-book (of which there are quite a few available in the Kindle store). I couldn't find examples of products in Kindle format on either site, hence my doubt.

Based on your description, yes: this should be submitted to VGG.
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Paolo Robino wrote:
Therapnes wrote:
Thanks for finding the reference, Paolo! I should have just looked a little harder...

After thinking a bit more about it, I believe the Kindle version of WoFM belongs to VGG. I own it - I bought in the US - and in my opinion it falls squarely in the definition of "playable." The content may be the same as the book, but it is not a text that you can peruse at your will, for example to check the result of two different choices. The program directs the experience. It generates the initial scores for you, shows you only the section that matters at that moment, and makes the die rolls for you.

This seems different from, say, a rulebook or supplement for an RPG published as an e-book (of which there are quite a few available in the Kindle store). I couldn't find examples of products in Kindle format on either site, hence my doubt.

For a definitive answer, maybe we could ask stargate – if he's not watching the thread already...


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here we go

this was submitted to the VGG domain back in January

Fighting Fantasy: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain

this is a iOS product

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And thanks for pointing this out! After seeing this thread and checking out the links, I downloaded it for my Kindle right away.

Looking forward to checking it out tonight after I mow the lawn. And since it's only $2.99 for iOS, I'll probably end up getting it there too so I can compare which platform I like better for the future releases!
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Quote:
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this was submitted to the VGG domain back in January
Fighting Fantasy: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain
this is a iOS product


The Kindle appears not to be listed as a platform yet, which is another reason I was not sure on how to proceed - unless I'm missing something again.

Anyway, thanks again for the answers! I'll check the VGG forums and see if I can find something more.
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Hi all,

sorry for resurrecting such an old thread, but this submission popped up yesterday in my feed reader:

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and I was wondering if there has been a change in policy. VGG does not list the Kindle as a separate version yet, but a Kindle version for at least one game has been submitted there:

Shogun: Rise Of The Renegade (Kindle Edition.)

and has been put under Other Mobile Devices (I don't know when it was added). Would this be a good way to go?
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Therapnes wrote:
Hi all,

sorry for resurrecting such an old thread, but this submission popped up yesterday in my feed reader:

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this version has been deleted, it belongs on VGG

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and I was wondering if there has been a change in policy. VGG does not list the Kindle as a separate version yet, but a Kindle version for at least one game has been submitted there:

Shogun: Rise Of The Renegade (Kindle Edition.)

and has been put under Other Mobile Devices (I don't know when it was added). Would this be a good way to go?


the Video Game Shogun: Rise Of The Renegade was added to VGG in April 2012



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